UCLA Medical Ethicist Katherine Brown-Saltzman

People Don’t Understand How Important Nurses Are

Katherine Brown-Saltzman is an assistant clinical professor at the UCLA School of Nursing and the co-director of the university’s Health System Ethics Center, which she co-founded. Before joining a Zócalo/UCLA panel discussion on end-of-life care—“Does Medicine Know How to Approach Death?”—she talked in the Zócalo green room about her garden, Scrabble, and how easy it is to brush ethical questions aside.

Q:

If you could wake up anywhere in the world tomorrow, were would you like to be?


A:

My granddaughter’s bedroom.


Q:

You went to school in two cold places: Wisconsin and Massachusetts. When you first arrived in California, did you spend all your time basking in the sun?


A:

I’m very partial to seasons, so it’s actually quite hard for me to have constant sun. That said, I’m not sure I have the endurance to bear Wisconsin winters anymore.


Q:

Where do you like to spend afternoons in Los Angeles?


A:

My garden. I have a wonderful one.


Q:

Why is there a need for ethics centers?


A:

Ethics is extraordinarily hard work. In our busy lives, it’s very easy to brush it aside, but if you’re going to have a true conversation about ethics, you have to dig deep and consider all different perspectives.


Q:

What’s your favorite board game?


A:

Scrabble.


Q:

If not nursing, what would you be doing professionally?


A:

Writing. I kind of do it anyway. I write poetry.


Q:

When was the last time you sang in front of people?


A:

Christmas.


Q:

What’s one thing people don’t understand about nurses?


A:

I don’t think they always understand how important it is—how, literally, their lives are in the hands of nurses.


Q:

Is breakfast the most important meal of the day?


A:

I love breakfast. I think it’s important.


*Photo by Jake Fabricius.